This week we had the honor to interview a group of NCAA sports performance experts.
Dr. John DeWitt, Director of applied sports science in the athletic department and a faculty member, Rice University (NCAA team).
Paul Silvestri, Sr director of sports health and performance, University of Florida football (NCAA team).
Drew Lukes, Senior PT at Duke University and the head of sports science, Duke universityâs women soccer team (NCAA team).
Tyler Friedrich, Associate Athletics Director, Applied Performance at Stanford University (NCAA team).
You can watch the video interview below by clicking on the Youtube link. You can also listen to the audio interview by clicking on the link at the top of the page:
đShow Notes: Through this interview, we touched on the following questions related to the NIL:
Q1. With the NIL, the transfer portal, are we actually developing NCAA athletes anymore, or are we mostly managing themâand how has that changed your daily job?
Q2. How has NIL changed the power dynamics around injury, rehab, and performanceâand what boundaries are hardest to protect right now?
Q3. Have you changed how you document, communicate, or educate athletes because of NIL?
Q4. If the NCAA landscape keeps evolving the way it is, what does the âideal performance staffâ look like in 5 yearsâand what skills will matter more than certifications?
You can read the full transcript of the podcast interview located at the top of this blog post.
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Here are some of the best quotes of our conversation with them:
Q1: Development vs. Management with NIL/Transfer Portal
Dr. John DeWitt:
âThe best source of data on an individual is their own data. And when people are leaving, we become more about managing than developing... The model of getting a guy when he is 17 years old and focusing on getting him to where he needs to be when he is 21 or 22âI think for a lot of places, thatâs going out the window.â
âWeâre looking at more of a professional model where you get someone and youâre trying to keep them for as long as you can until they walk out the door.â
Tyler Friedrich:
âThere is a little bit of development if weâre getting kids after their freshman year, but even then, itâs all about where are they now... The kicker is they donât get the benefit of those processes in place for four years where we can really get a good sense of who they are and train them up and develop them. They only get that benefit for one, two, three seasons at most.â
Paul Silvestri (University of Florida Football):
âWeâre trying to get as much data as humanly possible prior to them even setting foot on campus for the visit... Thereâs a lot of money going out to these individuals, and if you donât know what youâre paying for and what youâre going to get back in returnâat least from an injury history and performance standpointâyou can make some huge misses.â
Q2: Power Dynamics Around Injury, Rehab, and Performance
Paul Silvestri:
âThe biggest thing thatâs changed drastically in the last couple years is that every one of these athletes I deal with at Florida now has an agent, and weâre going through that process of navigating second opinions. Our team doctors are fantasticâIâd put them up against anybody in the countryâbut weâre still navigating that process just like a lot of the pros do.â
Drew Lukes:
âI still try to keep the important thing at the forefront, and that is: do whatâs best for the kid. I think itâs really easy to lose sight of whatâs important when money starts flowing around. For me, I just have to continue to remind myself of that mantra: do whatâs best for the kid.â
Tyler Friedrich:
âItâs really easy to get caught up trying to do the thing that makes the athlete happy or what they think they want, because you have an agent chirping or theyâre a big money guy coming in. But we need to do what we think is best and utilize our skill sets and training to provide the best training, recovery, nutritionâwhatever it is.â
âThe draw of âwe can develop you for professional or Olympic levelâ isnât quite as much as it was five or ten years ago. Now, you can have all those things and weâre still making those sales pitches when recruiting. But if someoneâs going to offer a hundred thousand dollars more to a softball player, for example, itâs probably hard for that kid to turn that down.â
Question 3: Documentation, Communication, and Education Changes
Tyler Friedrich:
âWeâre trying to centralize and standardize everything weâre doingâwhether it be the tests weâre running, how weâre running them, how often weâre running them, how weâre programming... literally everything. Weâre taking a more critical eye to all of our processes.â
âThe last thing you want is to have an athlete sign an NIL agreementâa financial agreement with the universityâand then claim negligence or improper training and documentation... We want to make sure weâre buttoned up and doing things at a professional level.â
Paul Silvestri:
âBefore, if a kid transferred, people would call and you would just talk to them about their injury history, kind of off the cuff. Now itâs âgive me a release from that kid,â because thereâs just too much money involved. If I say something about their medical information and they didnât sign off on it, thereâs the possibility of lawsuits... Everything just has to be dialed in now. Thereâs really little margin for error.â
Drew Lukes:
âWe should already be documenting well, communicating well, and educating our athletes. Maybe what NIL has done more than anything is give us another kick in the butt to make sure our Tâs are crossed and our Iâs are dotted... It adds a magnifying glass to keep us on our toes and make sure we donât lose sight of the importance of those things that arenât as fun in our job.â
Q4: The Ideal Performance Staff in 5 Years
Dr. John DeWitt:
âBecause the NCAA landscape is becoming more like a professional landscape, there has to be recognition from the university or leadership that people in these positions are fulfilling a major role... which means you have to rethink how you compensate these people.â
âThe ideal performance staff may have to start branching out into specialists... maybe you have a sprinting specialist or a baseball technique specialist... The idea of a strength and conditioning coach doing five thingsâI think thatâs got to stop.â
âIâm wondering how many of these athletes are coming in with their own trainers, just like in the pros. Now youâre going to have a situation where you have a team coach and then 17 guys with 17 different coaches. There has to be a way to integrate all these things.â
Paul Silvestri:
âThis is still a personal business. Itâs still a relationship business. At the end of the day, you have to be able to build trust with your athletes, and that takes communication and relationship building. Thatâs the core of it all. You can collect all the data you want, but if you donât have trust from the athlete, it really doesnât matter.â
Tyler Friedrich:
âAthletes, if theyâre transferring year over year, will have several opportunities in front of them. Theyâre like free agents in professional sports. Itâs about showing them our organization can help you reach your short and long-term goals... I donât see NFL teams reducing staff. Theyâre adding staff because they want to become an attractive destination.â
âI would like it to go to the point where we see an increase of practitioners... Yes, work on the money and have the money for the athletes, but the flip side is: look, athlete, not only can we pay you, but we can also take care of you.â
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